WALL OF TEXT INC...

The 25 man raiding is undergoing a serious shakeup in the run-up to Icecrown Citadel.

Team Vermillion and friends are going to be running their own 25 man team doing their own nights and content. Teams DarkSins, Coal and Pink are once again joining forces to battle the evil of Arthas.

The plan is to all but do away with the 3 individual 10 man teams and focus purely on the 25 man raids, running 3 nights a week practicing ICC as much as possible.

The 3 nights that have been decided are Thurs, Sun, Tues. Raid times are 20:30 server time (19:30 UK time) until finish. (likely to be 23:00 server time as that is when the 10 man teams usually finish)

subject to change, the teams are comprised of...

Tanks - 3
Kanine
Breicor
Shyne

Healers - 7
Ischtap
Rexmundi
Drachonus
Blackaddernl
Grimmjow
Baldette
Elsheindra

Melee - 10
Devion
Gilghamessj
Cannonblast
Popcorn
Chibiru
Enrico
Driftwood
Algoran
Muadia
Phoeb


Ranged - 9
Perparim
Jazhara
Giovou
Painterman
Animus
Tyna
EmptySkillbar
Veiliah
Zerdan

this gives a total of 29 people, which means 4 people will be taking a night off MAXIMUM (taking into account the people who cant make every run due to work etc that numebr is most likely to be 2). However with the possibility of no shows etc it is likely that number will be lower. It is very important people turn up if they can, we will be counting on every member. If it is proving to be too dificult to commit to the 3 raiding days you may want to consider standing aside and allowing someone who can make the days to have a shot.

As far as WHO will be taking the days off and when... no I will not be creating an elaborate rotation based on raid balance. I will be rolling a random list (probably using SKG) if it turns out we have too many people online then the person at the top of this list sits out 1 raid and 'suicides' to the bottom of the list.

If you do not show up for a raid without prior notice you will NOT get suicided until you have taken your turn. (with prior notice i.e. 24 hrs+ it may be that the night you cant make it be your 'Suicide').

Exceptions to this will be...
those that have already expressed dificulty with particular days due to prior commitments etc. (these will be ommitted from the list entirely)
Tanks. (difficult to rotate 3 tanks and the more stable the tanking team the better things will go.)
If a night off by someone would overly compromise the raid balance (e.g. a healer when we are already short of healers) this last exception will be dealt with on the night

NOTE: Just because you are at the top of the list does not mean you are ok to just not show up. (as stated before if you do not show up without prior notice of 24 rs then you will NOT be suicided and you will be taking the next raid off also. This is to ensure we get the raid going even if we have a couple of no shows.

In order to avoid arguement and wasted time, Invites will start at 20:15 server time. At exactly 20:30 any overbooked people will leave the raid and that nights raid team will be fixed. If you are late and we are full you will be taking a night off. This is mostly to make the raid leaders head ache less wondering if people are gonna show up, and waiting 5 or 10 mins to see if they show up before replacing. People who know they will have trouble getting to the raid on time but can GUARANTEE they will be there can let me know and I will hold their spot. NOTE: this is for extreme circumstances. I do not want half the raid comming to me to book their place because they might get caught up watching the latest episode of House!

I don't think I need to tell you, but I will anyway...
Food, Flasks, potions. etc are a REQUIREMENT (its not like I ever forget to get flasks) Fish feasts may not be available (depending on how much we wipe!) so please have a stash of your own food.
Please buy or make them BEFORE invites as people running to the AH at 20:35 because they forgot flasks will slow everyone down.
All being well we will be having a break half way through the night at which point people who have won gear can go and get it chanted and gemmed as long as they are quick however other than on that break please wait until AFTER the raid. Waiting 10 - 15 mins for one person to get this done is probably not worth the 50 dps increase that piece of gear will give you.

These are just a few of the points that have been raised to me in the past about how various things can slow raids down. (and yes I am as guilty as some and more guilty than most!!!) but if we are going to hammer ICC then we need to tighten up a bit and give it our all

Most importantly tho, as always, the point of the raid is still FUN, so if you have any issues about anything please /w Cannonblast, Devion or Veiliah and we will try to help but please keep it out of raid chat.

/mourn the death of the 10man teams

who cares about 10 man.. we have this crappy paly tank on 10 man that can't keep aggro anyway

nice to see this is going somewhere RULES RULE!, are we sticking with just 4 replacements btw?

Thats it! My hunter is my new main, im sick of paying Painterman 100g per kill to misdirect to Perp - im going to do it myself :p

Damnit Shyne, you might even force me to use invisibility for once :O

you'd have to dig it out of your spellbook first - in fact you probably need to go learn it from the mage trainer!

Looks good imo

Mua

I wouldnt exactly say the DEATH of the 10 mans, more like the semi permanent retirement of...

remember, there is going to be a limited tries mechanic in ICC which may mean we start off slow, (this will possibly mean ToGC25 tho) plus there may come a time we have everything on farm and would like to split up again to do 10 man achievements etc

There is nothing wrong with a team getting together on an off night to do something...

Looks pretty nice.

I'm expecting a nice start for us in ICC as the first boss looks like cake.

Looks like 3.3 will be going live next week

<fingers>

So shyne, when can i see my 100G for funny misderect'sI atleast get peeps killed

Unfortunaly, duty calls tonight so to speak so won't be able to make it tonight. Have to do some studying for tomorrow's exam and have to pay a housevisit(me being a docter and all).

good luck tonight ladies

tbh Perp we were going to ask you to sit out anyway, your dps is holding us back quite considerably and we are going to have to insist on a name change to 'Slackerim' effective immediately.

Just to take aggro off of Shyne I'll be there tonight. Cancelled the appointments with my customers

so /w Cannonblast retract bid

Too late, we replaced you with a non-combat pet